Archive for April, 2008

Flash the plastic, mastercard, visas and flags…

Wednesday, April 30th, 2008

So Roman’s russian off to Moscow in his yacht whilst most UK fans now try and get out their mastercard to pay for the Visa to get into Red Square.

 The most depressing, well one of the most, things about us not getting to the final this year is that Man Utd will get all the Red Square shit in the headlines, as if they have the best away fans and so forth.

Well here are my colours nailed to the mast, I really hope Chelsea win it.  But I’m gutted that we didn’t get through. And yet part of me is relieved. For losing to Utd and worse, getting to Moscow and back safely, with some money left and all my limbs, was too much to bear.

But to be honest of course I wanted us to win. And we nearly did, Babel’s late goal giving rise to another possible glorious night in Europe, but of course, it was Riise’s dive that did the damage…

For us, losing Skrtel so early was a hammer blow, and who’d a thought that would be have been said when the Czech killer arrived this year? But Gerrard looked out of it, and Fernando’s knackered and we couldn’t quite push it. But I’ll tell you one thing, even on the radio, you could hear our fans at their small shed, singing louder than the Chelsea fans with their plastic flags…

So now we have to get on with the rest of the season, I bet we suddenly look very tired indeed.. well done lads but I’m sad and red and tired

Who do you support - take the quiz.

Sunday, April 20th, 2008

Who do you support? A RAWK Quiz.
With many new members, we’ve decided to set a quiz for them. Try it and see who you support!

1.   You can hear “Shall we sing a song for you?” being sung. Are you

a)   Singing with them
b)   They’re in the other end but its so quiet you can hear them
c)   Fuck off you redshite – we deserved to be 4th and its not fair and I’m taking my ball home cos we’re the people’s supermarket club
d)   It’s the away fans but we’re winning 8-0 and so are having a half time coffee
e)   It’s my first time in Manchester so I don’t know.

2.   It’s half time – what are you eating?

a)   cheap pie, pint maybe
b)   Coq au vin
c)   Depends what Tesco’s have on in the out of date dept you redshite, we’re better than you no matter what your manager says arsescuntwankers ooh look a balloon.
d)   Scouse pie
e)   It’s my first time in Manchester but I’ve heard the prawns are nice

3.   It’s the start of the 2nd half, and the opposition goalkeeper is running towards you. Do you?

a)   boo him, and start singing “Easeh Easeh” if you’re back in time
b)   mmm what? Oh you startled me, I had dozed off, we’re too busy drinking café au lait
c)   Fuck off redshite twats god I hate you, I’d run the other way cos I’d think he seen me shoplifting in Tesco’s
d)   Applaud him then boo if he doesn’t respond
e)   Isn’t Manchester big? Is that the goalkeeper? He looks tiny from up here.

4.   Your favourite player scores. What do you do?

a)   Chant his name to any old tune you nicked the week before.
b)   Applaud and then complain that all the decisions go against you.
c)   Sing a song about Steven Gerrard.
d)   Sing a song about him, hopefully a new one that isn’t the same as other players’ tunes.
e)   Ask people on Merseyside if they’re watching even if your team is playing Fulham

5.   It’s a big European night, what things do you bring with you to the game?

a)   What’s Europe? I’ve been to Marbella once if that helps?
b)   Nothing, I just pick up my flag on the way in, but it’s a bit cumbersome alongside my copy of Proust.
c)   A sign that says Redshite in a foreign language so I can hilariously get my photo taken with it abroad.
d)   Home made banners, flags, scarves, voices.
e)   Nothing, UEFA will provide us with everything we need, mainly a result though.

6.   One of your players blatantly dives, what do you think about it?

a)   I told you we shouldn’t have signed Robbie Savage.
b)   I did not zee eet, the incident you are talkeeng about but eet is never our fault you know, ever
c)   Sing a song about Steven Gerrard, its his fault
d)   One of those things, we all have players who do it
e)   We never have anyone who dives not even Ronaldo ever and UEFA and the FA will back us up because we never ever cheat because we’re the most glamourous team

7.   The match is over. You’re heading home. Your journey?

a)   Is about an hour, but I’m used to it, just wait til we get relegated it’ll be hours to Gillingham..
b)   Is by chauffeur driven car at, or in a black cab, but as the driver – anyway there was 18 minutes left so I can get away sharp.
c)   Via Tesco’s to see of any of the meat is half price yet.
d)   Is via the pub to talk about the match or out of the city with some mates
e)   It’s a long way to London from Manchester. Aren’t the kits pretty? Apparently there’s 2 teams in the city, I like Ronaldo he’s pretty too.

Answers:

Mainly a) – choose from any club in the Premier League, Championship or League One apart from Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester Utd

Mainly b) Arsenal 90% maybe Chelsea.

Mainly c) Everton

Mainly d) Liverpool

Mainly e) Manchester Utd.

What Tom Hicks and his supporters don’t understand.

Thursday, April 17th, 2008

There are some, on here as well as elsewhere, who argue that Hicks isn’t all that bad for Liverpool. That his business approach to the club, his attitude to Parry (wanting someone else in to “take the club forward”) and his money, is a good thing and that so long as “we win trophies” well, what’s wrong with him, isn’t it about time we invested in Liverpool, didn’t he pay for Fernando and so on?

They would also point out that Bill Shankly himself said “coming first” was all important, and (with perhaps a modicum of truth) that most of us agree that so long as we win, who cares how we play or who writes the cheques..

Well to a degree that’s true. We all want to see Liverpool win; we mock the Arsenal fans who would rather see lovely football than be in the semi-final of the Champions League  if we win 1-0 in a final, the cup and the history books tell us all we need to know, Liverpool won.

But I’d like to say to these people, these hard-headed fans, these Thicks, sorry T. Hicks apologists, you’re wrong and you’re wrong for one reason.

We are Liverpool.

Now, before you all start calling me an old sentimental idiot, one who yearns for the pre SKY days and that all football is a business, let me put my argument forward why I believe the statement in bold, above, makes all the difference.

Firstly, I believe that football has always been a business, from the business decision orientated day of the formation of Liverpool, “Take your ball and piss off” said Mr J Houlding; to the days of the maximum wage, to today’s minimum wage being more than my dad would’ve earned in his life.

So its not that I think there was a golden age when football was run by kindly local businessmen who wanted the community to have something to be proud about.

No, what I truly believe is that I happen to support a unique team in the world. One that has (but sadly is rapidly losing) a direct connection with the community, with the fans and that a spiritual bond exists between the fans and the ‘Club’ whatever you take that word to mean.

Parry himself said that no individual is bigger than the club, and he was right. I and many others on here have written before that what Liverpool means to us, is individually unique, intangible and a wonderful concept that is ‘Our Club’. Certainly not anyone elses.

Liverpool has always been my club. Not David Moores when he owned it, not even Shankly or Bob’s club, it was the club I supported and followed and it accompanied me through life, above all else it was and remains the one thing that stays constant throughout my life.

Now, I don’t doubt fans of other clubs will think that too, that to them, all of the above holds water for them. But without saying “We’re the best fans in the world” because we’re plainly not, what is true is that Liverpool fans do have a unique and strong bond with that concept that is our club.

Think about it, even Arsenal players talk of the atmosphere, of playing at Anfield, even John Terry talks of how the noise and the home support scared him, how he was envious of Liverpool’s 12th man, the Kop, the ground, the man and woman in the street.

Listen to BBC Radio 5 Live pundits talk about how they think Liverpool is different, even though they support other teams, how Liverpool has a proper link with its fans.
And there lies the rub Tom…
You see the supporters, create what Liverpool is to the rest of the world, for without us, the club would be just another football club. Without the fans, Liverpool FC wouldn’t be the Liverpool FC that you bought, that the media talk about and that other players and fans secretly envy.

Look at the all the Liverpool fansites, how many threads talk about games where the noise, the support, the flags the fans raised the hairs on the back of your neck.

We have flag days, threads on how to make your banners the size of a football pitch, Chelsea have a thread telling you what time to pick up your plastic flag.

The Kop is but a set of seats without us. The Anny Rd too. The Lower Centenary, well I’ll stop there but you get the idea.

The world of football knows our anthem, they love to talk about and listen to Anfield on a European night, even our players talk about it. And that would be nothing, NOTHING, without OUR voices singing, shouting and chanting. It would be like the British Museum on a European night, or even worse, Chelsea v Rosenborg.

Tom, this isn’t a franchise of soccer. Each football club in the world claims to be individual, but Liverpool is the epitomy of that. It isn’t a commodity to be bought and sold – well to you it is, but you are missing the point. You are playing with my emotions, my history, my memories, my hopes because I love my club. And Liverpool fans, as hoodwinked and seduced by your patter as we were (well if Parry and Moores fell for it, can you blame the fan in the street?), each have that connection to the club and that sentiment and that emotional bond.

So for you to come out and in public tell the world how terrible things are, its like shitting on my living room carpet, taking a photo of it and showing everyone else. You don’t do it. I can slag off my mum and dad, but not you. And if Liverpool FC is what it is, because of us the fans, then you are de facto, criticising us, the fans. Well fuck you for that you ignorant shit. Because no-one, NO-ONE, tells me or other Liverpool fans how to support our team. We know how to and we’ve been fucking good at it since 1892.

 It’s not about bad PR Tom its about trying to understand that Liverpool is different, that it is envied and admired in equal amounts across the nation, partially because of its success, but also because of the its culture, which is us.

The title of my thread is why Liverpool is different, what you ought to understand about us. The link between the fans and the club at this football club is different to anywhere else.

You have bitten off more than you can chew Tom. And we’re not ending up in your spittoon.

Hillsborough for Dummies - The Facts Behind the Disaster.

Friday, April 11th, 2008

After many hard working hours, RAWK members 24/7 and kinKi have finished the Hillsborough for Dummies - the facts behind the Disaster document. I urge all readers on here to have a look at it, and to pass it on to all those who don’t know about the tragedy as its a fantastic introduction and factual guide to the terrible day.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=217050

Praise be Mr Wenger finally sees the action on the field

Wednesday, April 9th, 2008

He’s been to spec-savers surely, because Arsene Noel Wenger has actually seen some on field action. After many years of (put on your best deep and grumpy French accent) “I cannot zay about ze penalty as I deed not zee the incidont you are talkeeng about” he somehow manages to see 47 penalty incidents in the triology known as Arsenal v Liverpool v Arsenal v Liverpool.

Yes Dirk’s manhandling of some Arsenal player was as bad as the one that got Babel a penalty yesterday but do you know what… IT WASN’T GIVEN, (thought what the Newcastle goalie has to do with it is beyond me).

However our’s was and happy days all round as we are through to the semi-finals of the Champions League to play a small team from London called Chelsea.

Well after much analysis and post match thought, I have summed up our game last night very simply, and perhaps its a useful message to

Mr R. Abramovich,

42 Big House,

London,

postcode WE5 times, UZer0.

And it’s this:

BOUNCE!!!